The Air Force’s Suppressed M9 Pistol from the ‘80s.
The could have added another 3″ to the barrel and tube to get the capacity up to 4 rounds. Wouldn’t that vertical foregrip and a long Saiga magazine interfere with each other when you tried to pump it? ... To be honest A shockwave or serbu super shorty would be better, but still. Birdshot was fine. Especially a pump. Once again, they were kind enough to give me a little alone time in their south bay for some shooting (gun) and shooting (camera). $500ish What am I missing? Better than average for a pump gun. At short distances, it’s Feinstein’s nightmare come true of a gun that can be shot from the hip and put lead on target. No worries.
Many aftermarket parts like upgrades for trigger, safety selector, loading gate, extractor, side saddles, etc will work on the S-S. A side saddle that includes a top rail would allow for a laser, reflex sight, or other optic…just don’t let it recoil into your face. States can and do ban or otherwise regulate SBS separately, and they may have their own definition of what it is, which is not necessarily identical to ATF’s.
Low recoil buckshot is what I recommend to my customers.
Sure. 4 barrels in 12 gauge, would be heavier than the pump but would have double the capacity and be shorter.
This gun has me pondering more than most. Required fields are marked *. There ain’t a lot of shotguns that’ll fit in a backpack, but the Serbu SUPER-SHORTY will perform the trick with room to spare. Civilian ownership of a title 2 weapon requires registration, a tax stamp, a bit of paperwork, and a long wait to be approved. I can only speak from experience when it comes to the Mossberg 590 Shockwave. “any other weapon” as defined in subsection (e) of Section 5845 of Must have been before 68. FN Awarded U.S. Army Contract for the M249 SAW, Springfield Gets Into Hunting Bolt Guns with New Model 2020 Line. At 7 yards, max dram #4 buckshot was entirely in the silhouette but for one pellet. Copyright © 2020 Range 365.
There is no wrist pain from shooting one of these firearm equipped with a Raptor grip. Just don’t shoulder it while anyone’s looking (aside from the target, that is). Win, win. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/06/f3/50/06f35021ef68b7e7f865e7c5452a00eb.jpg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwlasVFx7fo. MSRP: $1,050 to $1,225 depending on gun (Mossy 500 or Rem 870) and options (such as breacher muzzle device).
Greetings from Post Falls, Jeremy! Needs large durable slings for wrapping around the back/neck to support the weight of one in each hand. Unfortunately my local pawn/ gun shops refuse to order one for me because they don’t read the laws as this states. I’m aware of SKT Industries AOW holster but suspect that they are out of business as I have not been It costs over $1,000. The Ithaca is a bottom ejector and I’ve read that they feed and eject the 1.75″ Aguila mini shells fine. However, leaving the short 14 inch barrel in place with a standard 90 degree pistol grip will shorten the overall length and it will fall into NFA territory. In California, this is considered a short-barreled shotgun, because their state law uses its own definition of what is an SBS that goes beyond what the federal law says. But the best thing I have found to do with it, BY FAR, is to offer to let a new shooter try it. I’d like to see Serbu come out with a shorty model based on the Ithaca Model 37. 16590. There was an incident of it ejecting the empty shell and the live one on deck, which I think was due to me rolling the gun onto its side too much while cycling the action back. Why would I not buy an 870, for around $300 and then pay $200 tax stamp to turn it into an SBR? It was black powder so was not a “firearm”. You’d do so if your state outright bans SBS, but doesn’t ban this kind of AOW. prohibited by Section 33215. In reality… there’s no true soft with the Serbu… just gradations of discomfort. Now that is the thing about which I am talking! I also enjoy the fun shoots, and often do pistol accuracy targets there. Also, AUGrad, you may be overestimating just how short you can make the gun without modifying it like Serbu has. The SUPER-SHORTY is an NFA item. The family member who owned had it probably since at least WWII and was required to register it after the laws passed in the 1960’s.
I’m not sure how much of the cost is related to NFA expenses and whether there are additional hoops, taxes, etc as a manufacturer in addition to the excise taxes and such that apply to normal firearms…. And FWIW the Taurus Judge and S&W Governor, btw, aren’t AOWs or SBSs because they both have rifled barrels and can fire normal, single-projectile cartridges.
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Worth noting, though, as it’s an easy thing to do with such a small, light, pistol-gripped shotgun. If it comes from the factory with a stock on it, you’d be stuck making it into an SBS (and adding the $200 tax stamp to the price). Plus, as it’s likely the shortest pump shotgun on the market, it may just fit in your briefcase. A fire-breathing, midget dragon that just might have some practical purpose as well. One is the original and the second is a custom job by Mark Serbu and holds 3 in the magazine, one in the chamber. Headlight and super shorty. I put my weight into that foregrip and ran the action like a rented mule, but it looks like it’s there for the long haul. Accuracy: * * * * * or zero stars
Grips will be the popular replacement item, and there are plenty of options out there. When I say the words 12 gauge, you probably think shotgun. I’ve personally found the Hogue OverMolded Tamer to be the best of the bunch in terms of “softening”. As used in this part, “generally prohibited weapon” means
The only way I would want to have one in the pipe, is if it were like the old Win. What isn’t so comfortable is the included pistol grip. It isn’t classified as a Short Barreled Shotgun, but rather as an Any Other Weapon. Thanks again. Why the repeated trope about the short barrel enlarging the pattern? Looking for information about holster for Serbu Super Shorty that “David P” mentioned on Aug 12, 2015. Those who have fired a pistol grip only shotgun knows they can have some fearsome recoil. This 6.5″ barrel version holds just 2 shells in the tube — whether 2.75″ or 3″ — while the 13.75″ barrel flavor holds 4. Definitely. You could make it as an AOW and avoid the SBS tax stamp. But here are just a couple notes…, * a shotgun is defined in part as a gun that’s designed to be fired from the shoulder. locations in 42 states. In the case of the S-S, the foregrip doesn’t change its classification one way or the other. Pattern size is due to barrel construction and choke– not length. View Quote. It belches fire, bucks like a bronco, and devastates targets with a torso-width spread at close range like nothing else I’ve shot. Well, there would be hoops. Nice to check in with something I wanted to check-out, and strangely the magazine capacity was a factor that was overlooked due to the drool factor. Small size lends to practical applications, as the S-S can bring 12-gauge thump just about anywhere and can easily maneuver inside of tight quarters. With the torturous pistol grip, I found the recoil best tamed by my left hand. Now if someone out there is making a double with a pistol grip, then it could be made into a similar gadget. That looks like a good time. ATF has allowed the transfer of SSS’s to CA residents from CA SOTs on Form 4’s and has allowed the making of SSS-type AOWs by CA residents on Form 1’s. It was used as a snake gun. It is, however, nearly perfect in this role. I purchased a mossy 500 with the same one attached back when I didn’t know any better. A gun with a stock is always easier to fire than one without. In a way it is, but it’s basically a catch all term for guns that falls outside of the normal classifications. It’s such a single purpose weapon that I’ve never bothered to buy one. For a combat shotgun, whether to carry in the woods or fight bad guys, I would want a semi-auto with an 18-1/2 inch barrel and a magazine that extends all the way to the muzzle. These are more practical than your traditional pistol grip only shotgun. As for the “firearm” category into which those pistol-gripped, smooth-bore guns with OALs above 26″ fall, they would not be NFA-regulated even with a vertical forward grip since, again, that only applies to guns considered to be “pistols” or “revolvers” (handguns w/ rifled barrels). I bought one, after shooting it a few times I put a stock on it. But I’m not aware of such a thing. It’s possible to run the S-S with the foregrip folded, but it isn’t the design intention and it’ll abrade the bottom of the receiver a bit. I’m really not sure if most people buy these just for screwing around and having fun or if it’s for more practical purposes, but I do know that the S-S is capable of filling both roles. Did Dirty Harry Use .44 Specials in his Model 29?!
I've run multiple group buys for different items.
If money were no object I would love to own a lot of guns that “for me” are just out of my reach and don’t make $$$ sense–this is just such a case…I would much rather spend a Grand on something else but can totally get the attraction here.
I’ll believe it when I see it. issued pursuant thereto. The Shockwave is a very lightweight and maneuverable package, more maneuverable than a standard shotgun. The typical response when they get ready to leave after their first day is “can I come shoot again and can I bring a friend”. I am sure it would work for self defense (there is even a company that makes a holster) but I have a couple other choices up that list, not a discredit to the platform just a personal choice. A pistol would be better or a regular 18″ barrel shotgun. Sometimes you just want a fun gun, and these 12 gauge firearms are a literal blast.
The fact it’s a Mossberg 590 platform means I can also customize it to my heart’s content. If you want one, I wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger and snatch one up. I’ve read repeatedly that shotguns with just a pistol grip are hard to aim and recoil is vicious. Better yet, make it bullpup.
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